App Inventor + Kodular Planned Collaboration

[OfficialDjJohn]

Okay

[Anke]

@Diego

The announcement on this community was just intended for all users to be aware of the upcoming plans, as we'll be posting new topics regarding implementing new functionality from Kodular Creator.

Well, in this respect the AI2 users / PUs are only informed about a cooperation that has already been decided. Nevertheless, it should be be more than comprehensible and justified that at least some - to whom I definitely belong - express their concerns about it here.

To what extent this is supposed to be off-topic may be understood by anyone who wants to, at least I don't.

If only enthusiastic comments were allowed to be posted, it might have been better to close the topic again immediately after posting.

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Btw, "Most of the last comments are... conversation regarding the future of Kodular..."
To be honest, I'm more interested in the future of AI2.

[Someshvar_Vashisht]

The MIT App Invetor UI is the BEST.

[ewpatton]

The MIT team will continue its existing policies of reviewing contributions as they will all be going into the open source repository on GitHub, which includes testing and review of the code for potential issues. These discussions happen publicly on the pull requests. We are also being joined by two veteran contributors of App Inventor from its time at Google who are helping in this process in terms of both coding and reviewing.

[Alaqmar_Bohori]

@gordonlu310

I'm afraid of a lot of questions in the community unanswered, and users would spam this community.

Is there a way where creating a chatbot can help reduce the unwanted spam?
I am sure the repeated questions on server down, particular component broken, etc. can be answered by a chatbot which is learning continuously.
Well this is an idea that just popped into my head and am not at all sure if it is going to be feasible to implement.

[Diego]

We haven't talked yet about what's the future of Kodular Community, but we'd like to keep it active anyway. Of course, questions regarding app development will end up moving to MIT App Inventor Community, but we think Kodular Community will still be useful somehow.
Regarding ProKoders, we didn't decide yet what to do with the group, but they will definitely be reviewed. We wanted to revisit and "refactor" how it works a long time ago, but couldn't do it because of lack of time. But with the collaboration, when we eventually reach the transition point, we'll see how we handle the ProKoders group.

[gordonlu310]

@Alaqmar_Bohori

Is there a way where creating a chatbot can help reduce the unwanted spam?

There could be, I remember stumbling across a plugin for Discourse...

[TIMAI2]

@Alaqmar_Bohori

Is there a way where creating a chatbot

IMHO, this would be the thin end of the wedge

[Alaqmar_Bohori]

As I said, I am not sure how would the implementation go, and of course should be implemented after careful deliberation...

[gordonlu310]

• I personally think the AppInventor UI should remain the default and dominant one after the collaboration, because this gives default AppInventor users a better feel.

• I don't really approve the Kodulsr way of adding spaces between blocks (like Error Occurred). This is kind of buggy, for example, extensions find the blocks with the same name separated with spaces. Also, this is programming, users need to learn how programs are formatted.

• Will the Classic theme still be supported? The Classic theme has simple title bars and UI, easy for a simple app.

[Anke]

@gordonlu310

Will the Classic theme still be supported?

Change Time in Time Picker

Are there any (good) reasons why Theme Classic is preset (the default) in the designer? @ewpatton Who actually still uses the Classic theme these days?

Change Time in Time Picker

There are really two main reasons, but it's certainly something that could be reconsidered at this point. When we first updated App Inventor to support the newer Android themes, there was a bit of a backlash because the appearance of people's apps changed overnight. This led us to introduce the Classic theme as an option and we made it the default so people had the option of switching to the newer designs. At this point, we can implement an upgrader for existing projects to keep everyone happy…

Change Time in Time Picker

Ok, I understand, but no one is forced. However, it should no longer be the default setting.

Change Time in Time Picker

Yes, I'd rather that be the case as well. I will raise it as an issue at the staff meeting and see if it is something we can consider for the summer release.

[Patryk_F]

I think it's a good idea. Many good programmers will join forces. AppInventor will be a little more modern, and there will be no more problems with extensions for different platforms. There will also be no division of the community.

[Kevinkun]

any update for this collaboration?

[Patryk_F]

I follow Github. Currently, several components are in the process of being corrected, but they don't seem to be approved yet.
Firebase, Camera, NearField, Sound and SoundRecorder.
I think it will be a long and winding road

[Anke]

@Patryk_F

I think it will be a long and winding road

Definitely, and presumably a bug-rich road.

[Patryk_F]

Yes, I think we will need a test server where we can test apps imported from kodular and appinventor.

[ShanmugaNathan2023]

Can we have any Roadmap or something like that for this collaboration

[Patryk_F]

Probably not. Everything is done for free, in the programmers' free time. In such conditions, no one will work according to any rigid plan. There is a general plan for this to happen in 2024, but it could also be 2025. No one can guarantee a date, just like with the iOS release.

[Chandan_Kumar]

Any update on this? Is this even happening?

[TIMAI2]

@Chandan_Kumar

Is this even happening?

Yes, see the post above yours for "timelines"